Caroline Biesalski kicks off the episode by highlighting the value of care in rehabilitation, featuring John David Graham's career journey. They delve into themes of second chances, overcoming community resistance, and the importance of cultural diversity and being a good neighbor. John David discusses how applied theology shapes his work and the significance of offering multiple chances. The conversation also covers habilitation and habit formation for a better life. John David shares insights on his writing, the impact of his novel, and upcoming projects. The episode wraps up with reflections on life as a marathon and a special offer for listeners.