In this episode, Tommy is joined by bravery expert, leadership developer, and author Jill Schulman to unpack The Bravery Effect—the idea that bravery isn’t something you’re born with, but something you can train. Jill shares her unconventional path from Marine Corps officer to positive psychology expert, blending personal stories, scientific research, and practical tools to show that courage is a learnable skill.
Together, they explore how bravery drives personal and professional growth, why discomfort is essential, how mindset shapes action, and why surrounding yourself with the right people can make you braver than you ever imagined. Whether you're facing a tough decision, stuck in a rut, or seeking a more courageous life, this conversation offers a roadmap toward becoming who you were meant to be.
00:00 Introduction to Bravery
03:07 Jill’s Journey & The Science of Bravery
05:50 The Definition and Importance of Bravery
12:07 Building Bravery as a Muscle
17:50 The Role of Comfort and Discomfort
24:02 Micro-Bravery in Everyday Life
29:41 Mindset & Stress Management
35:48 Taking Action & Planning for Bravery
41:47 Right-Sizing Your Bravery Goals
47:42 Surrounding Yourself with a Brave Tribe
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