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In this episode of JOY over Happiness, Dr. Jon Eckert has a conversation with Bryan Goodwin, Deputy Executive Director, McREL Institute at Region 13, about what joyful learning actually looks like in classrooms. Bryan explores why joy isn't the absence of struggle but often found in the process of learning, growing, and overcoming challenges.

From the power of curiosity and collaborative inquiry to the value of storytelling, boredom, and meaningful questions, Bryan shares how educators can create conditions where students and teachers experience genuine engagement.

This conversation is a reminder that joyful learning isn't about making everything easy. It's about creating opportunities for people to discover, persevere, and find meaning in the work of becoming better.

Mentioned:

The Happiness Crisis by Jon Eckert

The Meaning of Your Life by Arthur Brooks

The Flourishing Factor by Chris Egan Teaching

Reaching Kids Who Don't Fit Inside the Box by Pete Hall

Charlie Hustle by Keith O'Brien

Never Work Harder Than Your Students by Robyn Jackson

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