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My favorite part of talking with people is finding a share love of music. And in episode 14, Brendan Laverty and I have a shared fandom of Creed. Brendan (from the band taking the state of New York by storm, When We Were 30), talks Creed and he talks his time in the NorthmeN. He talks his own podcast (which kinda inspired this one) and he talks all things When We Were 30. Have a listen. And then go out and see this band live. You will NOT be disappointed.