In this episode I chat with actor, author and educator Joe Abraham about the expectations we put on ourselves as artists and how to re-frame the COVID experience. Joe also talks about The Thriving Artists, a book and training program he created with his wife, actor and dancer Christine Negherbon, that helps artists thrive both as artists and as business people. We examine the Starving Artist versus the Thriving Artist mentality and how to operate from a place of gratitude and abundance.