Edwin and Megan continue their discussion on Makoto Fujimura's book "Culture Care". Are artists outsiders or inside out? Is this a good thing for society or are we living in a cataclysmic apocalyptic world without knowing it? Where can we grow a strong culture? In the cheese shop, of course! Does thanking people suck you into the vortex of endless thanking for thanks or does thankfulness have inherent regenerative momentum? This and many more questions are explored.