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My guest today, Peter Callahan, made such a fun film called OUT AND ABOUT (2022) that explores the life of a middle age suburban white guy walking around his neighborhood. That’s the film. I watched half of it before going out on my birthday a few weeks ago, and came home, buzzed, ready to watch more of a guy walking around filmmaking. 

And through meeting his neighbors and other characters, we get a deeper understanding of his life. 

And today, we do that with the director Peter Callahan. His personal story is crazy — dropping out of high school to winning awards at the SOHO International Film Festival — and I’m so glad he’s here to share his perspective on indie filmmaking. 

In this episode, Peter and I discuss:

• How OUT AND ABOUT is such a great concept — it’s just a guy walking around while you hear his inner monologue!;
• His crazy entry into filmmaking — from dropping out of high school to getting a Master’s degree at Columbia University;
• The stories behind the films he made before OUT AND ABOUT, including trips to Sundance;
• Why he decided to act in his film;
• Whether the 10,000 hours concept popularized by Malcom Gladwell (it takes 10,000 hours to be proficient at a certain task) is true for screenwriting;
• The logistics of a film like OUT AND ABOUT (no, you can’t actually make that walk) and whether there was reluctance for such a unique topic;
• If a middle age white guy film hurt him at festivals and amongst viewers;
• What’s next for Peter.

Peter's Indie Film Highlights: AMITY (2012) dir. By Alejandro Adams; FRANCES FERGUSON (2019) dir. By Bob Byington

Links:

Follow Peter On Instagram

OUT AND ABOUT Film's Website

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