They disagreed on a lot of things: She was a “bleeding-heart liberal”; he was a “conservative libertarian.” He “came from good Irish Catholic stock”; she called herself a “hopeful agnostic.”
When the firefighter chased her down the street to ask her out, she pinned him as “a bald, white, middle-aged New York City cliché.”
On their first date, no topic was off-limits. Not racism, not abortion, not substance abuse. With each date, another debate.
Today’s episode is about the space they found in each other — and the unexpected aftermath of their breakup.
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