Ramie Makhlouf and Drew Flagge have started a new podcast and their first guest is Bart Winkler. This is that episode! What's it doing on this feed? It's like a backdoor pilot that TV shows used to do all the time. NCIS was originally a spinoff of JAG, people forget
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