Ross sits down with Sam Stein, managing editor of The Bulwark, ahead of their live show at the Novo in downtown LA on May 21st. Two veteran news folks for the price of none — they get into the Bulwark community in SoCal, why live shows are suddenly everywhere, the food-and-comedy-to-politics pipeline eating the news business, the California governor's race, Newsom's posture toward Trump, the defensive-vote trap heading into the June 2nd primary, and yes — Spencer Pratt.
