![[Unedited] Darius Rejali with Krista Tippett](https://onbeing.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/On-Being-with-Krista-Tippett.jpg?resize=320,320)
One of the world’s leading experts on torture, Iranian-American political scientist Darius Rejali discusses, in particular, how democracies change torture and are changed by it. In the wake of Wikileaks revelations about torture in U.S.-occupied Iraq, we explore how his knowledge might deepen our public discourse about such practices — and inform our collective reckoning with consequences yet to unfold. See more at onbeing.org/program/long-shadow-torture/206
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