Host: Rosalia Rivera
Guest: Anna Sonoda, licensed clinical social worker and author of Duck Duck Groom: Understanding How a Child Becomes a Target
Duration: 50:04
Release Date: February 12, 2025
[00:00] Welcome & Introduction
I introduce my guest, Anna Sonoda, and share why her book, Duck Duck Groom, is an essential read for parents.
[02:22] Anna’s Background & How She Started This Work
Anna talks about her journey as a clinical social worker and what led her to work with sex offenders. She explains how sitting face-to-face with offenders gave her insights into their thought processes and behaviors.
[04:34] What Grooming Really Looks Like
Anna breaks down the four stages of grooming—flattery, favoritism, forbidden fruits, and fear—and explains why most predators don’t fit the "creepy stranger" stereotype.
[07:11] The Limitations of the Sex Offender Registry
We discuss why relying on the sex offender registry isn’t enough and why most predators never end up on it.
[12:31] How Groomers Target Parents First
Predators don’t just groom children—they groom adults too. Anna explains the tactics offenders use to build trust with caregivers to gain access to kids.
[20:13] How Offenders Groom Entire Communities
We talk about the ways predators manipulate entire social circles, making it difficult for people to believe allegations when they arise.
[26:55] Red Flags & Early Warning Signs
Anna shares key behaviors to watch for, both in adults and children, that could indicate grooming.
[32:46] The Power of Showing Up
We discuss why parental presence is one of the strongest protective factors against abuse and why being the “unpredictable parent” can deter predators.
[36:08] Peer-on-Peer Abuse is Rising—Here’s What You Need to Know
Anna highlights the alarming rise in peer-on-peer abuse and how easy access to pornography is shaping harmful behaviors among kids.
[41:44] How to Talk to Kids About Grooming & Body Safety
We go over practical ways to start age-appropriate conversations with kids about staying safe, recognizing red flags, and setting boundaries.
[46:34] Where to Find Anna’s Book & Final Thoughts
Anna shares where listeners can find Duck Duck Groom and her additional resources for parents and survivors.
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