Michael's conversation with The Atlantic's Edward Isaac Dovere, author of "Battle for the Soul: Inside the Democrats' Campaigns to Defeat Trump." This interview is a bit...different than others, not for clean ears! Original air date 11 June 2021. The book was published on 25 May, 2021. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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