0:00: Host Andrew Vosko welcomes guest Gloria González-Morales, associate professor of psychology in the Division of Behavioral and Organizational Sciences at Claremont Graduate University.
1:41: Gloria describes how she became interested in interdisciplinary and transdisciplinary studies.
5:46: Gloria responds to Andrew’s question as to how she negotiated the culture of the discipline of psychology with her desire to be transdisciplinary. Gloria uses the example of Pablo Picasso as someone who first had to master a certain domain and area of expertise before innovating.
9:09: Andrew talks about the “trans-” prefix in three ways: transcending, transforming, and transgressing. Andrew relates disciplinary knowledge to the way he learned other languages.
12:40: Gloria discusses the importance of travel in her graduate education and work.
14:54: Andrew asks Gloria to compare collaboration in the United States with her international experiences.
17:00: Andrew and Gloria discuss some of the challenges of doing collaborative work in a disciplinary structure.
19:26: Andrew and Gloria consider the million-dollar question: how to transform the university.
21:13: Gloria considers innovation in universities from the perspective of behavioral organization.
25:54: Andrew and Gloria discuss problems with the perceived separation between academia and the “real world.”
31:51: Andrew talks about how the trend toward specialization has created the need to reassess foundations, foundational learning, and foundational principles. Gloria elaborates on the problems that specialization creates for inclusivity.
34:47: In response to Gloria, Andrew describes a gap in the thinking on inclusivity.
37:10: Gloria describes a student’s dissertation on the distinction between inclusion and belonging.
39:58: Andrew and Gloria exchange ideas on how to approach and cultivate allyship.
42:00: Andrew raises the conflict between the relational and transactional approaches.
44:17: Gloria discusses another student’s dissertation on high-quality connections as opposed to the concept of social exchange.
51:00: Andrew talks about different versions of transdisciplinarity as challenges to the traditional scholarly life.
