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In this episode of Last Meal, I’m in Montmartre, Paris, sitting down with a thinker I’ve long admired: author and Atlantic staff writer Thomas Chatterton Williams.

Thomas is someone who fundamentally refuses to be pinned down. Whether we’re discussing the "artificial intimacy" of our digital age or the weight of an inherited name, our conversation always returns to a central theme: the courage required to outgrow the identity you were born into.

We recorded this in a city that runs at a different speed, and that environment opened up a profound dialogue about the cost of convenience in the West, the psychological danger of stagnation, and why the most important work often happens when we are "hungry"—both literally and figuratively.

This isn't a show about recipes. It’s a deep-dive into the wisdom, legacy, and ethics that define us. I prepare the dish my guests would choose for their final feast not for the food itself, but to unlock the conversations that truly matter before the clock runs out.

In this episode, we explore:

✅ The Ritual of the Daily: Why optimising for convenience has cost us our connection to community.

✅ The Digital Loneliness Crisis: How "artificial intimacy" creates the illusion of connection while leaving us more isolated than ever.

✅ Identity and Progress: Thomas reflects on three generations of change—from his father’s grandmother being married to a man born into slavery, to his own life in Paris.

✅ The "Hungry" Writer: Why high stakes and survival often produce the most focused and urgent intellectual work.

✅ The Philosophy of Effort: The vital lesson Thomas’s father taught him: you have to work twice as hard to bring honour to your name.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 – Intro

01:23 – France vs America

08:08 – The “August Pause”

13:39 – Is interconnectivity toxic?

21:43 – Outgrowing Identity

27:25 – Traveling to appreciate home

28:31 - Thomas' Last Meal

33:37 – The Wine of Two Lives

38:22 – Madeleine de Proust

45:00 - Confronting Mortality

53:00 - Stagnation vs Growth

58:20 - Writer's Journey Begins

1:08:00 - Hunger Drives Excellence

1:14:00 - Lesson Optimisation

1:22:45 - Praswell Grass Cutting

1:25:25 - The Origins of the Name Thomas Chatterton

1:32:50 - Experience Worth Every Cent

1:36:06 - A Father's Pride

1:41:27 - Last Word

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