What happens when creativity, play, and purpose collide? You get Joel and Troy McRae — co-authors of delightful children’s books who are on a mission to inspire young people (and grown-ups too) to be more active, more creative, and a whole lot less hard on themselves.
Joel is the writer, Troy the illustrator, and together they’ve created two much-loved picture books: Birdwatching Betty and Giraffe Cannot Play Hide and Seek. What began as heartfelt gifts for the children of friends has grown into stories that are now bringing joy, laughter, and important life lessons to readers of all ages.
In this fun, thoughtful, and surprisingly profound conversation, we explore the idea of progress over perfection — in creativity, in life, and in the stories we tell ourselves. Joel and Troy share how setting a deadline can unlock creativity, why finding fun in every element of life matters, and how comparison quietly steals our joy if we let it.
This episode is a beautiful reminder that you don’t have to get it perfect to get it moving — and that sometimes the most meaningful things start small, playful, and imperfect.
In this episode, we talk about:
If you’re a parent, educator, creative, or someone who needs permission to stop striving for perfect and start enjoying the process — this episode is for you.
🎧 Listen now and be reminded: progress is more than enough.
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