A cosy, chaotic catch-up we didn't really plan - but we leapt at the opportunity. We weren’t meant to be back behind the mic until next week, but the stars aligned with Jess and Char in the same place at the same time. Leece shares a bit about trusting her gut and leaning into her intuition, which quickly spirals into a very enthusiastic chat about Heated Rivalry (the show, the book and the gay sex). We also touch on a local Waikato hill climb with a mildly competitive edge (and further spiraling lol), what’s bringing us genuine joy right now, and a few real-life moments with our kids. Apologies for our sound quality today as together we were without mics. Lots of love to you all x