Introduction
Walker McKay is a successful entrepreneur and sales expert. He is the host of the No BS Sales School podcast, which is dedicated to helping entrepreneurs and salespeople master the skill of selling without the BS.
Overview
In this episode, Walker discusses the changing sales environment and the importance of adapting to these changes. He shares a story about a marketing and advertising firm that is struggling to find new clients outside of the tech sector, and how they are spending a significant amount of money on pitches and proposals that are not yielding results. Walker emphasizes the need to relearn how to disqualify people and focus on those who are ready to do business. He also breaks down the five levels of motivation for somebody to buy from you and how to use them to your advantage.
Timestamped Chapter Summary
- Introduction: Walker introduces the NOVs Sales School podcast and discusses the outdated and cheesy sales advice that is prevalent today. [0:00:05]
- The changing sales environment: Walker talks about the shift in the sales environment and how more people are calling him to say that things are changing. He shares a story about a marketing and advertising firm that is struggling to find new clients outside of the tech sector. [0:00:47]
- The cost of pitches and proposals: Walker discusses how the marketing and advertising firm is spending between $8,000 and $10,000 per pitch or proposal, and how this is affecting their bottom line. [0:02:21]
- The importance of disqualifying people: Walker emphasizes the need to relearn how to disqualify people who are not ready to do business, and to focus on those who are. [0:04:16]
- The things you need to know about somebody: Walker discusses the need to disqualify people who are not qualified to receive a proposal from you. He emphasizes the importance of understanding what motivates people to buy and the five levels of motivation for somebody to buy from you. [0:04:52]
- Look for motivation: Walker discusses the importance of looking for motivation and what motivates people to buy. He talks about the five levels of motivation and how to identify them. [0:05:26]
- The five levels of motivation: Walker breaks down the five levels of motivation for somebody to buy from you, starting with interest, arousal, curiosity, future pleasure, current pleasure, fear of future pain, and pain right now. He explains how to identify each level of motivation and how to use them to your advantage. [0:06:26]
- Pain right now: Walker emphasizes the highest form of motivation is pain right now. He discusses the importance of understanding what is going on right now and how to fix it. [0:08:40]
- Personal impacts: Walker talks about the problem, consequences, and personal impacts of pain. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the personal impacts of pain to the person you're talking to. [0:09:13]
- The higher the pain, the easier the sale: Walker discusses how the higher the pain, the more likely somebody will figure out a way to make it work. He talks about how to identify pain and the importance of finding it. [0:09:41]
- Don't waste somebody else's time: Walker emphasizes the importance of not wasting somebody else's time if they don't have true pain. He discusses how to gently end the conversation and how to be skeptical that they're actually going to make a change. [0:10:28]
- The low-cost business model: Walker discusses how if your business model is low cost, you could have all the business you want, but you'll probably be replaced by AI at some time in the near future. [0:11:21]
- End the conversation gently: Walker talks about how to end the conversation gently if your prospects don't have true pain. He emphasizes the importance of being skeptical and asking questions to find the pain. [0:11:51]
- Conclusion: Walker concludes the episode by encouraging listeners to be ready for the shift in the sales environment and to continue to be skeptical that they're actually going to make a change. He also offers a free mini-course on seven expensive sales mistakes. [0:12:59]
Quotable Phrases
- "Sales is the most lucrative skill in the world, period." [0:00:05]
- "We need to be relearning how to disqualify people." [0:04:16]
- "The highest form of motivation is pain right now." [0:08:40]
- "Most people don't walk around with a sign that says I'm in pain on their forehead." [0:10:04]
- "Your skepticism is your power." [0:11:51]
Conclusion
In this episode of the No BS Sales School podcast, Walker McKay discusses the changing sales environment and the importance of adapting to these changes. He emphasizes the need to relearn how to disqualify people and focus on those who are ready to do business. Walker also breaks down the five levels of motivation for somebody to buy from you and how to use them to your advantage. He talks about the importance of finding pain, not wasting somebody else's time, and being skeptical. Tune in to future episodes for more sales tips and advice.
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