A couple of things are obvious: we all need water to survive. And it’s hard to do anything without energy. Author and energy expert Michael Webber says those two systems are very interconnected, and their interconnection is, arguably, almost as important as either system by itself. KUT's Jennifer Stayton talked with Webber about his book "Thirst for Power: Energy, Water, and Human Survival." Webber argues we ignore that interconnection at our own risk.