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Max is joined by Brian Williams, MD, a trauma surgeon at the University of Chicago, and host of the podcast Race Violence & Medicine. They discuss police violence, the killings of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling in July 2016, and the subsequent mass shooting against law enforcement in Dallas, where he was the on-call trauma surgeon. What his experience was like processing those events, fast forward to today, as the Black Lives Matter movement is gaining more traction, along with the push to #DefundthePolice.