Kitty Brown joins again as co-host. We sat down with Disney animation background artist, Carl Beu, and discussed personal fitness, moving, wage slavery, Disney animation, labor unions, the future, humanism, Bioshock, Siri, robot-human marriage, bleak futuristic sci-fi, empathy, #TheDress, Leonard Nimoy, problematic perception in corporate culture, Purple Dog, misogyny in media culture, Net Neutrality, background animation, concept art, advice for new artists, Motor City, Goth and Industrial club culture and dating, mosh pits, and background art influences.