People feel happier when they are emotionally engaged in meaningful conversations and when actively invested in learning something they care about. Successful people are not only knowledgeable about facts and figures, they also have multiple intelligences in several modalities. To discover how we can redesign our post-pandemic future to bring forth a more meaningful and happier life, Positive Psychology Podcast Host Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two authors whose latest books focus on creating emotional connection through communication tools. Fred Dust discusses his book, Making Conversation: Seven Essential Elements of Meaningful Communication and details the benefits of deeper, meaningful conversations in society. And, Dr. Thomas Hoerr describes the framework of his book, Taking Social-Emotional Learning Schoolwide: The Formative Five Success Skills for Students and Staff, and how it can positively affect teachers, faculty, students, and learning.