If meaning is just something we make up, why does it keep falling apart?
In this episode, the conversation goes straight at atheism and the meaning problem it creates. Not as a debate and definitely not as a gotcha. More like an honest look at what happens when belief in God is removed and purpose is expected to hold itself together anyway.
We talk about why meaning feels necessary even when people reject faith, where moral frameworks actually come from, and why culture keeps borrowing Christian ideas while insisting it does not need Christianity. The discussion moves through leadership, relationships, and everyday decision-making, especially in a world that wants purpose without transcendence.
This is not a tidy answers episode. It is observational, occasionally uncomfortable, and very aware that both Christians and skeptics carry assumptions they rarely slow down to examine.
Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman bring their usual mix of curiosity, humor, and real-life perspective to the conversation. They push on ideas without pretending everything resolves cleanly, and they are honest about where faith clarifies things and where it complicates them.
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