Today's guest is author, filmmaker and one time founder promoter of the Desolation Center. According to both Perry Ferrell and the folks behind the bacchanal that is Burning Man, Stuart's Desolation Center shows featuring the Meat Puppets, the Minutemen, Sonic Youth, Einstürzende Neubauten and Mark Pauline's Survival Research Laboratories were the inspiration of both Lollapalooza and Burning Man. On today's show Stuart and Cris reminisce about those amazing shows and talk about Stuart's upcoming film on the Desolation Center. Intro music is Teenagers by The Meat Puppets, outro is Plateau by The Meat Puppets.