Some shows slow down for the holidays – but we’re doubling down! We start with NFL All-Pro Charles Tillman of the undefeated Carolina Panthers, who has a new book about how to survive and thrive in those awkward middle school years. (Too late to help us, but we digress.) Then (26:30 mark) we go deep with music legend Def Jef about rapping with Shaq, the evolution of hip-hop, and what it’s gonna take to get more athletes releasing rap records already!
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