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Ellen's last five days inspired a wonderful conversation about music, creativity, family, spirituality, white boards, SM 58s, death, what 10 days of meditating in silence is like, writing, FOMO, and so much more. I LOVED this conversation! Check it out and enjoy. (Ellen's cat also made an appearance.)

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