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Ingrid Bergman. Immediately you'll think of a scene set in the fog outside of an airplane, where Laszlo is about to get on a plane - but beautiful Ilsa will be getting on there too, all because Rick has to give up what he's had, once again, and... of course it's one of THE noble gestures in cinema. Casablanca, often called the greatest Hollywood film, was something that Bergman didn't find that compelling as she made it. What movie was she more excited about to make at the time? What was working with Hitchcock like? The monumental scandal (for Americans of the period, and even US Senators on the House floor) involving Roberto Rossellini - and which gave the world a number of very memorable dramas (and Isabella Rossellini to boot). Then, near the end, Ingmar Bergman.

Jack and Andrew talk Bergman's films that they've seen, like Notorious, Joan of Arc and Voyage to Italy, on the week of Ingrid Bergman's 100 year birthday (and at BAM in Brooklyn, NY, a retrospective will be going on).

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