On this episode of The Yay, we bring on EJ Gibson, company member of Ubuntu Theater (http://www.ubuntutheaterproject.com). EJ talks about his growing up in both Hollywood, Oakland, and North Carolina and dealing with racism in the Deep South. Norman, EJ and I get into a spirited conversation about Oprah's possible 2020 run, the H&M "monkey t-shirt" controversy and racism in the 21st century.