On this episode, Norman and I welcome Deb Carriger, actress and director. Deb was a former member of Eastenders and an ACT MFA graduate. Norman, Deb and I talk about current events (the 2018 Women's March, outgoing Senator Flake's calling Trump "Stalin", and Betty White's 97th birthday) - and Deb shares her background and how she feels about the state of the world and theater in the bay.
