Jim and Andi talk about recovery programs beyond 12 Step and WRAP options. They discuss LifeRing (https://www.lifering.org/), Alternatives to Suicide (https://www.westernmassrlc.org/alternatives-to-suicide), Hearing Voices Network (https://www.hearingvoicesusa.org/), White Bison (http://www.whitebison.org/), The Sanctuary Model S.E.L.F. (http://sanctuaryweb.com), Recovery International (https://recoveryinternational.org/), and Whole Health Action Management (WHAM) (https://www.thenationalcouncil.org/training-courses/whole-health-action-management/).