In which eavesdropping host Juliet Fraser talks to Rie Nakajima about trying to make sculpture, trying to be a human being and never mastering the spirit of objects.
References: O YAMA O (Rie's duo with Keiko Yamamoto), vital materialism, Beaux-arts de Paris and Cafe OTO.
Recommended listening: Rie's album with David Toop, 'Is Spring a Sculpture', released 2025 on Room 40.
https://room40.bandcamp.com/album/is-spring-a-sculpture
Rie will perform in the eavesdropping festival at Cafe OTO on Sunday 22 March 2026: www.eavesdropping.london/activity/2026/
