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In this episode Bart interviews Sanjay Patil, a Consultant with The Humphrey Group about his life and professional journey. Sanjay is an experienced human rights lawyer whose globe-spanning career has been driven by a desire to help create spaces for others to be heard. In the course of his career he has embraced self-awareness, mindfulness and a commitment to going slow as fundamental to leadership. He shares his insights with Bart, and talks about how these tools are particularly relevant for any leader who wishes to be intentionally inclusive. A powerful conversation for anyone wanting to better know themselves, manage their emotions, and lead inclusively.
00:49 Welcome
01:00 About Sanjay
01:43 Why he's on the podcast
02:57 Career path
05:30 Finding clarity of purpose
06:26 Moral obligation to do Human Rights work
08:01 The commonality in all of humanity
09:21 Locus of control
10:35 3 big learnings that Sanjay has learned
11:39 The intention to create a space where people can be seen and heard
12:29 How can leaders create inclusive spaces?
12:40 Example of how to do it
13:30 Resources available to do the work
14:46 How to proceed?
14:53 Not a box-ticking exercise
16:36 How do you implement these programs?
17:06 Example: Anti-Asian hatred
18:13 Inclusive leadership -- the shallow way
18:33 Metrics?
19:04 Require a profound shift in consciousness
19:20 Need to allow the messiness to happen
20:18 So many dimensions to inclusivity
20:29 Thinking wholistically
21:14 The importance of slowing down
22:31 How to go slow?
23:46 Monkey mind
24:28 Meditation retreat
25:40 Make time for reflection
26:13 Guard your reflection time
27:43 Bart: hyperactive hive-mind
29:54 What do you have control over? A: your actions and reactions
34:42 Thank you
36:01 End of real-time interview