In this episode, Bart speaks with Karina Michel, an accomplished actor, director, and producer, about the powerful lessons leaders can learn from the creative world. Karina shares insights drawn from her experience across film and television, exploring what leadership can gain from the disciplines of acting, directing, and producing. She reveals surprising parallels between performance and leadership, showing how both require presence, authenticity, and vision.
From fully embodying a role as an actor, to building cohesive teams as a director, to managing complex projects as a producer, Karina draws on a wealth of experience and breaks down how creative approaches can make you a more effective and inspirational leader.
Connect with Karina:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karinamichelofficial/#
IMDb: imdb.com/name/nm2405454/
Listen to her podcast Coffee with Karina on:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5k60JMmYHpW6ri7QVPCPVI
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coffee-with-karina/id1529519382
Show notes:
00:20 Show Intro
00:57 Introducing Karina
02:03 Karina's Background
03:10 What’s It Like Auditioning as an Actor?
06:45 What Is a Producer in Film?
07:57 What Is a Creative Producer?
09:12 Moving to Directing
11:51 What Can Leaders Learn from the Film Business?
12:38 Take Risks
13:20 Having Strength of Conviction
14:23 What Leaders Can Learn from Actors
14:37 Preparation
16:48 How Do You Prepare to Play “Me”?
17:07 Get Clear on Your Ideas and Direction
18:39 Empathy
20:28 Don’t Judge the Character—or Yourself
22:05 Lessons from Directing
22:35 Team Effort and Collaboration Matter
23:57 How to Handle Underperforming Team Members
26:50 What Can Leaders Learn from a Producer?
27:09 Have a Vision—and Follow Through
28:00 What Makes a Good Pitch?
30:23 Meet the Basic Standard of a Pitch
31:30 What Separates a Great Pitch?
31:46 The Team Is Key
34:04 Where to Find Karina
34:53 Wrap-Up
35:46 Thank Yous
36:12 Outro
