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Okay, pop quiz: What a legal medical procedure that’s performed roughly 1.6 million times a year in the United States but that still seems to rather terrify and scandalize Hollywood? In recent years, though, there’s been a big shift in the way we talk about abortion. People who’ve had abortions have been able to share their stories widely on social media. And it’s helping change our pop culture, too.

On this episode, we talk with researcher Gretchen Sisson about abortion narratives in film and TV, then discuss abortion rhetoric in the 2016 election with Renee Bracey Sherman.

The band featured on this episode is Tacocat.