Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2gGVeNNhS6EC08Oj5ngE4P?si=f083e71dc0784e7c
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/david-vespa-7-2-23-we-shall-be-like-him/id1233517365?i=1000619401075
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yHZvrlpO3KI
