Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0xz1pN2wIA15kW1W1XMTKY?si=RdfSM29PQly47KfACsPCMQ
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paul-johnson-4-21-24/id1233517365?i=1000653342541
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/WrcziGww5W8
