Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3gA13ksaP5mKOk3VJMhLdT?si=6e68d70afca645d3
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/politics-our-role-and-our-beliefs/id1233517365?i=1000668203724
Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/3qup8fSPw_k
