This episode is a conversation with José Ignacio Torreblanca, the Editorial Director of El Pais, about the polarization and divergence of European politics. Torreblanca explains how the economic crisis mutated into a political and social integration crisis, leading to the trend of emerging tensions along various dividing lines in Europe. He also discusses the exhaustion of the European model and the frustration of many European citizens with the current system and condition of the EU. (Date of interview: April 20, 2016)