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Toria Rainy talks with Dr. Gerry Alons, Assistant Professor of International Relations at the Political Science Department of the Radboud University Nijmegen, about direct vs. representative democracy in the European Union and her changed expectations with regard to Europe's future. She stresses the need to ask realistic questions when considering where do we go from here and the need to put national differences aside in the search for common solutions. (Date of interview: September 23, 2016)