Fresh from releasing Murmuration, his debut album under the guise of Swimmers Jackson, Niall Jackson joins from his London home to discuss its creation, as well as Weezer's influence, how it differs from his other bands Bouts and Sweat Threats, how it helped "catalogue my 30s", getting through lockdown with help from Tim Burgess' Twitter listening parties, Irish music, and Normal People. Buy the album: https://swimmersjackson.bandcamp.com/album/murmuration
Outro music: Swimmers Jackson - 'Summer's Here'
