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John Morris talks with Danielle Brown of the USCCB Ad hoc Committee Against Racism and with Dale Brown of the Lay Pastoral Ministry Institute for the Diocese of St Petersburg. They talk about race relations in the US and racism still in the church and in society. The USCCB passed its newest pastoral letter against racism Open Wide Our Hearts, which was mentioned during the conversation, in November 2018. Find it, the study guide, and other related tools for individual and group use at www.usccb.org/racism.