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Sam Van Aken, creator of the Tree of 40 Fruit, comes on to talk about his work and worldview. There's also a plague magic minute that forces us to confront the age-old question: What is a gillyflower? What isn't?

To learn more about Sam Van Aken and maybe take on of his classes, go to:
https://greenthumb.nycgovparks.org/news.html?news_id=467
https://www.samvanaken.com/
http://instagram.com/samvanakenstudios

The episode image is those wands he mentions.

Also that censor beep came from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIpOnR7zpmg