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During this call, Crystal chats with Katy.

After joining the call, Crystal instantly recognizes Katy’s voice. Having coached Katy over 14 years ago, Crystal had shared a story about Katy in her 2006 book, Transcendent Beaty (with her permission, of course). At the time of their coaching, Katy was so worried about never getting married or having children. In Transcendent Beauty, Crystal shares a process where she helps Katy “find the voice of her fear,” also something Crystal calls ‘Working with Parts.’ Going through the process together, they discovered Katy’s wounded self was a lonely, little old lady with curlers in her hair, wearing a ragged, old housecoat, who was so worried Katy is going to turn out like her.

Fourteen years later, Katy calls into Chat with Crystal and shares that she indeed did get married, but that she’s spent the last six years or so going through IVF unsuccessfully. Crystal instantly remembers Katy and her Mother Energy — the same old, scared little lady who is now freaking out that Katy will never have children. Together, Crystal leads Katy through a powerful process to help her make peace with her Mother Energy and the fear that she’s clearly drawn near.

Katy feels instant relief and also shares with Crystal that she’s recently signed up to become a Certified Empowerment Coach with The S.W.A.T. Institute, all these years later.