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This is such a fascinating interview, with a fascinating guest. Rob is from a community that doesn't really exist in the popular imagination: poor, working class, white people living in Cape Cod, who are able to scratch out a living by morphing the Cape into a playground for the rich during the summer.

His life, which is haunted by the fear of April, has taken some pretty interesting twists. One of which is becoming an early member of the newly formed Alphabet Workers Union.

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