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Since Donald Trump won the presidency, we’ve been hearing more and more about a disenchanted white working class that was fed up with a system that they say wasn’t working for them.

A class that felt unheard, and voted — some out of racism, but many out of frustration. Joan Williams is a professor of law at University of California Hastings School of the Law in San Francisco, and Director of the Center for Work-Life Law there.

She says, as a country, we are ‘clueless about class’. And especially, she says, her fellow liberal elites. Her new book is called White Working Class: Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America