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I know you're going to enjoy this lovely conversation with Kansas City Northland-based Pastor Rick McGinniss. Rick has been at North Heartland Community Church for 25 years. He is the founding and senior pastor at NHCC, “a church for people who don’t attend church”. Tune in as he speaks openly with us all about his wife Jetta's sudden struggles with severe anxiety, shares stories and insights about suicide, death, and surviving your loved ones, compares religious and spiritual labels, acknowledges his own "dark thoughts", and so much more. Though outside of the "norm" of who we have been hosting on this podcast thus far, we definitely consider a religious and community leader a non-traditional wellness professional and think you'll agree after hearing what he has to say. It was an absolute joy to speak with Rick, and we hope you enjoy the episode!

Website: www.northheartland.org

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