This conversation between the Rev. Paul McLain and David Waters is the latest in our podcast series with Lenten Preaching Series speakers and other faith leaders, authors, and creative thinkers around the world. David Waters is assistant director of the Institute for Public Service Reporting at the University of Memphis and columnist for the Daily Memphian. He was previously faith and education reporter for The Commercial Appeal and religion editor for The Washington Post. In this wide-ranging conversation, David and Paul talk about the longing for context in journalism especially in view of the pandemic, the response of the Memphis faith community to COVID-19, how childhood trauma and poverty in Shelby County have impacted reading levels, and the power of bottom-up approaches to the greatest challenges for our city and the church.