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Free Home University Curator Alissa Firth-Eagland and Musagetes' Project Assistant Danica Evering spoke with Free Home University Mentor Emilio Fantin last December 2013 about his thoughts on the sacred, education, and how we want to live together. The episode was aired as a segment on The Secret Ingredient, an ongoing discussion of the invisible elements of art that make it powerful and relevant: how artwork connects many publics, inspires cooperation and collaboration, and is created through conversation. We talk about new views on local, national, and international art where it intersects with the social. How can we add new voices to the conversation about art? What makes art useful today and how do we, as individuals, find meaning in it? Broadcasting every Wednesday at 9 AM on CFRU 93.3 FM on traditional Attawandaron Territory in Guelph, ON and streamable at cfru.ca.