Thoughtful discussion with Helmut Hauser (Round 2), senior lecturer at University of Bristol, and the director of EPSRC Centre for Doctoral Training in Future Autonomous and Robotic Systems: FARSCOPE). How to design soft bodies that could adapt the shape to the environment? Which growing machines are currently going towards? What Are the reliable approaches for morphological computations, and how can we capture the interesting dynamics for sake of cheap computation? Importantly, what makes PhD research successful? I hope you enjoy listening :)