Inspiring and thoughtful discourse with Nick Hockings a researcher at the robotics and autonomous systems group of the CSIRO, the Australian government research agency. In this episode, we discussed the evolvable parameterization for the design of soft robots, based on the emulation of morphogenesis, Large scale smoothed particle modeling, and MicroElectroMechanical prototypes of muscle-like actuators, somatosensory hardware, and arthropod exoskeletons. I hope you enjoy the episode.